October 17, 2025
Episode 21 of the Thinking through Design podcast is now available.

This is the second part in an ongoing conversation with Reinhart Butter, Professor Emertius of Ohio State DESIGN. We talk about his first years in design education (as a young German designer), the need for students to interact with professionals (so they can get over their fear of working at scale), and why 'fun' is the byproduct of rigor and discipline.